I'm keeping the original assignment below. Listen to the song and come to class prepared to discuss.
41)View the words as a whole; note phrases you like, and think about why you like them.
2) Circle and look up any unknown words; define the words in the margin.
3) As always: explain what argument this song is trying to make, and explain what methods (logos, pathos and ethos) they use.
4) Write a paragraph explaining your experience with the first three steps, and work in the information you gained from each step, as well as the information in number four.
My experience with the first five steps, were insane. The mind works in weird ways and this made me notice even more. I listen to it first then when I started writing the words down the second time I had missed so many words that were interesting. It was hard listening to it and understanding it, because it isn't my type of music and my mind just wasn't wanting to really pay attention. But after many times of hearing it I started to understand and relate a little more to the song. Like the repetition of the song was more like a call out for help, which was very interesting to hear.I believe this song can be Ethos and pathos, just because you can hear the struggle, which can mean personal experience. Then they are getting there story across appealing to our emotions has humans, in the way of baring bad news which we all been there and just understanding, there ways.
ReplyDeleteI also that it was amazing how when i just listened to it i missed so much stuff by not writing it down. I was able to better understand what the artist was trying to say in the song
DeleteAfter completing the five steps I felt like I still had a minimal grasp on what the songwriter was trying to say. To me it sounded like she was singing about poverty the first time that I listened to the song. After listening to it a few more times I was still getting the same idea. It also sounded like it was about the rich trying to hold down the lower class. This song, as every song does, uses pathos to put a point across. I believe that the lower class is the audience for this song because it sounds like she is telling them to be patient and good things will come. I felt that the song was well written even though I do not fully understand her ideas. I think that this song has a deeper meaning to someone other than myself.
ReplyDeleteMy personal exprience from doing the first five steps. Was an eye opening one. Usually in the first 10 seconds of a song i know if i like the song or not. But after listening to the whole song and listeing to it again this time taking notes. I picked up on things that i wouldnt have other wise known if i hadnt taken the time to write things down. I feel the songs repetition is a way for the artist to get emotions across to the listener, Let the listener know he is some kind of distress. I believe the song has pathos he used the power of emotion to get the listeners attention.
ReplyDeleteMy experience with the first five steps was definitely interesting. On the first listen, I could barely make out a full sentence, and could not grasp what the artists were trying to say at all. But on listen number two, when I had the chance to write some of the words down, it made a little more sense. And by the time I listened to the lyrics and wrote down more, I had a better idea on what this was about, although I'm not sure whether my interpretation was close. I did hear some repetition, which were the phrases, "Anyone there" and "All day." From what I gathered in this song, I think it is directed to people that enjoy hearing hip-hop that tells a story. The song mentioned things like panic, sirens, war, and rumbling of the belly. I thought it was a cry for help, like they just want to be heard. This exemplifies pathos because the words they spoke had a lot of emotion. I thought it was an interesting song and story.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the article once and then doing the five steps. I felt that I was better able to understand the point after doing the five steps for example by looking up words I didnt know it was easier for me to understand that sentence. To be honest I dont normally look up words I just read right by them sometimess or guess the meanings. The methonds I beilieve the author used in this article was Ethos because he used his own personal exprience and then gaing respect by i blieve using Technology, Ipod which is something most of us use everyday . And logos because he was able to back up everything he was saying from using real life examples that he used in his classroom and letting us know the results.
ReplyDeleteWhile you are correct that going against the grain of the educational system that the US government as setup, is a task full of many risks and very few rewards. People like Davidson should be praised by her fellow peers, that she had the "balls" to set forward and say "this is wrong, that there is a better way."
DeleteIdeas that go against the ideas of the masses are often "shot" down and not accepted. Just look throughout history and the battle between religion and science, is a prime example the ideas of a few being hidden from the world.
I believe the point Cathy N. Davidson was trying to say that something multi-tasking isnt always a bad thing. And that thinking outside of the box somethimes has more risk than rewards.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your, and Cathy Davison's opinion regarding multi-tasking to be a good thing. However, I cannot see how "thinking outside the box has more risk than reward." I thought Davidson was trying to prove just the opposite. Without her experimenting with iPods, blogging, peer reviews, etc., she might never have come to the conclusions that she did. As the saying goes "nothing ventured, nothing gained."
DeleteI agree that the author was trying to show that multitasking can be useful in the learning process although she really went more in depth with group work later on in the essay. I think that the author was trying to say thinking outside the box had more of the fear of the unknown rather that risk.
DeleteIts defiantly a positive to think outside the box because that's how a lot of great ideas come along. If everyone wanted to think the same and inside the box there would be tons of ideas unexplored.
DeleteThose are two things that she did mention, but do you agree when she say thinking out side the box is more risk than rewards. I am in between with those two because many times it was bot a risk an rewards but I dont know.
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ReplyDeleteCritical thinking and making connections while reading, was something my last English teacher attempted to bestow upon his students. As I was reading the article by Cathy N. Davidson my first connections were with our own classroom experience. I wondered how much our own professor – Emily Taylor – looked into Davidson's ethos – credibility – and logos – logic –, when she contemplated how she wanted to approach teaching at the college level. I looked at her attempts to defeat “attention blindness,” by allowing us – the students – to write about and research topics that we find exciting and what we as students feel is what effects our lives. She then beings forth the ideas of blogging and peer to peer reviews, which are both examples of Davidson's attempts to overcome the primitive 20th-century learning experience. While we – the students – were not handed out free iPods, I still feel that many of the discoveries made by Davidson's experiments; have been carried over into our classroom.
DeleteMickey you're right! Where are our iPods? I do believe that the same style of teaching that Davidson used at Duke University, is being utilized by our English professor, Mrs. Taylor. I'm not sure which topics we've been able to research and write about thus far, but I'll keep my eyes open. Hopefully I won't become a victim of "attention blindness."
DeleteThe title of the article “Please Give Me Your DIVIDED ATTENTION” says it all. I admit that I didn’t even notice the humor in the title. I suppose that is one of the points Cathy Davidson was making, specifically in her referencing of the the basketball and gorilla observation test. My brain filled in what I thought I read.
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting to ponder that only until recently, have educators been open to modernized teaching styles, particularly at a prestigious and private institution like Duke University. I found the article to be very credible. Davidson is not only an academic, but also a practitioner. She very easily could have recommended introducing iPods into other classrooms to collect data, but instead became central to the experiment; thus strengthening her position by utilizing both Ethos and Logos in her argument.
Davidson used a holistic and collaborative approach when she instituted “participatory learning” in her classroom. Davidson also included blogging into the structure of her course, which immediately upon reading, I found to be very similar to the arrangement of this English Composition class. To Mrs. Taylor’s credit, I found the class’s collaboration used to understand the “Doomtree-Dots and Dashes Lyrics”, to be very helpful.
I don’t think the title does the article much justice though. Davidson only formally spoke about multi-tasking early in the article. She greatly expounded on the use of iPods, blogging, peer reviews, and challenging the traditional grading system. I thought she could have chosen a better and more encompassing title.
I completely agree the title didn't match the article at. She had alot of creditable information I just wish it was organized differently. I
Deletewas left with more of a sense of confusion than feeling more educated
I too agree that the title didn't do the entire article justice. The beginning of the article where Davidson talked about the basketball video, and a few other parts of the article did go with the title, but I didn't think it fit the entire thing. I thought it was very informative, but jumped around a lot to different topics.
Delete“Collaboration by difference,” a phrase used by Davidson in her article that I believe sums up the entire article. To work as a group to find a solution, and using people’s different strengths and knowledge to collectively do so. Two heads are better than one, three better than two, and so forth. Davidson takes that knowledge, directs it towards a learning environment, and models a teaching style to fit.
ReplyDeleteDavidson starts her article talking about the experiment with the gorilla. The results from this show us that not everyone observes everything in the same way. Some people knew how many times the basketballs were passed, while others knew about the gorilla, however when you collaborate their observances you get the full picture.
The next subject Davidson talks about is the IPod experiment done at Duke University where a group of students were given the chance to explore their creativity without boundaries. Having them come up with a solution, a practical use for the IPods in a learning environment. When the experiment was over the group had come up with more learning apps than anyone had expected.
This is the idea that Davidson instilled in her class that she created through posts in Wikipedia, blogs and such. Davidson uses Ethos with her credibility as an educator and Logos with undeniable logic. I believe that this is the reasoning behind why we are writing these blogs. As an individual we may not hear/see everything in the post, but by reading other people’s observations we are able to have a better and more complete understanding.
I agree that she was trying to tell us that a group setting creates a better learning environment then just working alone. You make a great connection between the essay and the blog explaining that we as students will each find something in the essay that the other may not therefore giving legitimacy to the author.
DeleteVery nicely written Shaun, unlike myself you really seem to be able to capture the meaning behind what the professor really wanted us to say and do!
DeleteWhile I agree that on paper “Collaboration by difference,” would appear to work best. I have been in many group building formats, both in the Army and out of the Army in which would show that this isn't always the case. I myself find it hard to be in a group setting a lot of time as I allow my mind to wonder from the task at hand, which in many cases leads me pull my other group members from the task as well. Although, there has been times that being in a group really open not only my eyes but the eyes of the group to new ideas and possibilities!
P.S. I really hate the spam filter type this number/letter stuff it makes me do every time I wanna publish my ideas!
Well said Shaun, I agree especially with what you said regarding the "collaboration by difference" and about the purposes behind this blog. Davidson's short story regarding the gorilla hit the nail on the head; and you picked up on it to-everybody sees things differently. By getting everybody together, the group can benefit from the strengths of the whole. Secondly, I was initially skeptical regarding this blog. I suppose being an older or non-traditional student, I felt that this medium had no place in the classroom, however, in reading Davidson's motivations behind starting a blog, I'm starting to come around. "Collaboration by difference" is here too.
DeleteI really like the way you said that taking what everyone saw you get the whole picture because that is so true in life, especially in the type of work I do. You may be a master at one thing but that does not mean your the master at everything, so that's when multiple people come in to make the other side of your puzzle is easier to complete.
DeleteI completely agree with you. Between the blog and the group work in the class on Wednesday I realized that so many different things can be see and interpreted by having many different eyes and minds in one situation. So many people see things differently that it can only better an experience by having more people.
DeleteI think that was a very well written observation of this article, Shaun. Often times, by collaborating with others, the outcome will be better than if you were to work alone. Like you said, two heads are better than one, three better than two, etc. Of course, this isn't always true, but I think her experience and methods of logic show it's worth a try.
DeleteI think that using the close reading made me look at the essay totally different. When your taking it step by step you get more from what your reading then when you read it as a whole. I enjoyed this process even though it was rather lengthy. I think Ethos and Logos were used in this essay. It appealed not only to logic but also to the trustworthiness of the Davidson. In reading this essay I gained a lot of reading and understanding knowledge because I read more in depth then I usually do. I understood it because I paid closer attention of the words separately then as a whole. I also tried to get more understanding of the words I didn't know.
ReplyDeleteI agree after doing a close reading I felt I was able to understand more. But once we got to class and we talked about it. I understood that just because the article had some facts. There's still room for error I gained nothing
DeleteClose reading to other's writing is like making love to their ideas and experiencing an intimate time with them. It allows you far greater understanding and grasp of the picture they are attempting to display though their writing.
DeleteI also agree that after doing a close reading I felt I was able to understand more. I also agree
Deletethat most of this essay’s creditability comes from the trustworthiness of the Davidson.
At first look at the title of Davidson's essay, "Please Give Me Your Divided Attention, you know that it's an article that looks at the different ways people pay attention to things. In the video that Davidson was shown, she realized how the brain works in different people when paying attention to something, with different ways of perceiving things. She then goes on to describe her experience as a professor at Duke University where the school partnered with Apple so students could think of ways an iPod would enhance their learning experience. In her course, "This is your brain on the Internet," she came up with a new way of grading and having her students take more control of the way they were learning in the classroom. I think this article showed logos, pathos and ethos because she provides a strong backbone of knowledge and passion for what she does and delivered the information in a very interesting way. I think she was aiming this towards other educators to inspire others to teach and let their students interact using a different approach.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the author made it a point to state that there are multiple ways that people receive and process information. I also think that she was trying to make a point that working as a group improves the learning process. I to believe that this essay was focused mainly on the educators but it also hits heavily on students and how they can improve there process of learning.
DeleteIt would be great if educators would use this approach. I think children would do better in school if this was a well read study by teachers. I know just from being a mother that all of my children pay attention to different things.
DeleteAfter reading the "Please Give Me Your Divided Attention," an essay by Cathy Davidson, I picked up on a few interesting points on the direction that the educational system should take. While I may not agree with all of Cathy's points, she was able to use Logos and Pathos to make an interesting argument. Although Cathy may not be the most reliable person to make this claim she is still very persuasive thanks to her experience and research in this subject matter. I agree that when you are placed in a group with other people that each student will have a strength to offset another students weakness. I disagree that working in a group is always the most successful way of getting work done because there will always be someone who is not willing to put in the effort therefore making your job that much more difficult and stressful. Cathy reaches out to teachers and students alike to give them what she thinks is the best way to get work done. Cathy wrote this essay with the purpose of forwarding the way of thinking in a classroom environment. She was successful at making me believe that working in a group has it's advantages, even though I do not agree with every point.
ReplyDeleteI also disagree that working in group is the best way to go. I don't like working with others and feel that when I do I am not learning how to help myself with my weaknesses but am leaning on others.
DeleteThe Davidson's essay, "Please Give Me Your Divided Attention,” is a great read. This essay looks at the different ways our brain uses to pay attention to things and goes over attention blindness. In the video that Davidson talks about watching, she realized that our brains have been trained by the digital age to only do or see one thing at a time. I enjoyed this read and didn’t have to look up any words. I feel Davidson has ethos. To me she seems to have looked up and researched the brain and attention.
ReplyDeleteI think that the only way you should work together is if you are all working for the same common goal, otherwise i say cut off the loose ends because they aren't helping the cause their just postponing it. But i do see where your coming from.
DeleteIt was a good read and there was some for me that I had to look up, just because I believe that her essay was to wordy in parts and full of big words. Reading about how the brain works is very interesting , being a dreamer I wanted to be a Neurosurgern because since I was small I thought the brain was so interesting and this article made me remember those days it was great.
DeleteI also agree that the brain has been trained. With the way technology is we are so focused that we often d not notice certain things. It's kind of like how they say every time you watch I movie you notice something else. When you first watch a movie you are watching to see how it goes but the more you watch it you know what's going to happen so you watch closer and see details that you didn't see the time before.
DeleteThe name of the article was defiantly cool and funny after you read it because at first I thought it was just a random name to give but it wound up being very clever. what I really enjoyed about the essay was the main point of the essay and it was about taking people and putting different minds together to reach the same common goal. The Ipod thing was brilliant because they figured if we introduce this product that everyone wants but only give it to a select few then the remaining few are going to combine ideas to reach the same goal. Really Apple just used a jedi mind trick to get students do their job for them by finding out different ways to make the Ipod more school friendly without having to do any work, just supplying the product. Same thing goes with Wikipedia by placing knowledge on the internet that multiple people can collaborate with to make answers to peoples questions. Its ideas WORKING TOGETHER! Logos and Ethos were defiantly used because the whole essay was based on the logical ways people can use their different ideas with each other to make great things, and Ethos was used by the Ipod method because they used a product to sell their ideas. Trove was confusing but it means a store of valuable or delightful things.
ReplyDeleteTotally agreeable that the title was a little weird but it does get a little better when you keep reading the essay further, but still a little silly, being that she really didnt speak of it much. The ipod experiment was pretty smart to do and I can understand that you think that apple did that for a reason, but maybe it was more to see how people worked together.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that Davidson had good blend of ethos and logos through her essay. When it came to the title of the article she speaks about giving your divided attention in only a few places. But in reality this article was all over the place spoke about ipods and blogging and peer review. Which some of those did sound very similar to this class English 121 and I did agree when she spoke about that when you put the one person that doesn't know with people that do. The group can be more effective and I agree with that. The main part of all this article was talking about is how putting people together and creating a great an idea. Which doing all the steps above made me realize.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it is very similar to our class. There are so many ways in getting an idea acrossed and putting people together o figure it out is a great way to understand. Understanding from your peers is a great way to teach and therefore giving people more insight to one thing at the same time.
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